diff -ru a/binutils/ar.c b/binutils/ar.c
--- a/binutils/ar.c	2011-03-16 04:35:58.000000000 -0400
+++ b/binutils/ar.c	2012-01-19 15:44:46.211226017 -0500
@@ -98,7 +98,7 @@
 /* Operate in deterministic mode: write zero for timestamps, uids,
    and gids for archive members and the archive symbol table, and write
    consistent file modes.  */
-int deterministic = 0;
+int deterministic = TRUE;
 
 /* Nonzero means it's the name of an existing member; position new or moved
    files with respect to this one.  */
@@ -634,9 +634,6 @@
       if (newer_only && operation != replace)
 	fatal (_("`u' is only meaningful with the `r' option."));
 
-      if (newer_only && deterministic)
-	fatal (_("`u' is not meaningful with the `D' option."));
-
       if (postype != pos_default)
 	posname = argv[arg_index++];